Population Explosion
2002, December 13, 11.15 pm. to 12.10 pm.
Anuradha: If God created human beings, how do we explain the increase in
population?
Gajaraj Swamigal: My father, Mahamuni, I place this question at
your feet. I request you to enlighten us about this issue.
Sage Agastya: Daughter you have posed a question to me on
behalf of others who have asked you about this.
You have a confusion here. You are trying to link the gradual laws of,
or disappearance of other souls and increase in the population of human souls.
The issue seems to be based on the idea of statistics. Your idea is
that if a certain number of souls were created on earth, you presume that
mathematically the sum total of souls is the same, except for human souls who
have attained salvation. This is not true. You cannot apply statistics in
respect of God’s creation.
We have already told you that souls were the products of the expansion
of the supreme consciousness which you call Parabrahman. We cannot apply the
known measurements applied in science and technology. It is simple. The present
science is unable to measure or see the infinite all-pervading divine energy.
All known objects of matter and energy can be measured and interpreted in terms
of science.
Spirituality is beyond known form of science. To give you some
examples, in scientific language, you cannot just imagine where the universe
ends. That is why a simple word called ‘maya’ is used in spiritual language.
Therefore there is no equation of addition or deletion regarding the number of
souls in the universe.
This is what happens. The ever expanding Para Brahman throws away from
it very higher form of subtle energy called atman. The individual atman is
called the jivatman. Such atman is also noticed in living and nonliving
objects. This is what some poetic languages describe as “kallillum, mullilu,
unnilum, yennilum, maraindirukkum kadvul”
Meaning, kadvul which is equated to jeevatman is present in every form
of living and nonliving objects. Once again, we express that God is
omnipresent. Here the word God also implies the unit of atman liberated from Paramatman.
I would suggest that millions of atmans are continuously liberated from
the Parabrahman or Paramatman are still waiting to acquire sharira or the body.
You can compare this to a cloud. You do not know when and how much
water drops on the earth in the form of rain. The raindrops also drop or fall
outside the earth. Therefore, the number of jivatmas present in this planet
need not be the only planet where atman takes the form of the human bodies.
In cosmic creation, the purest form of atman or the original atman may
acquire any kind of body, not necessarily the human body. It is also possible
that cyclical transformation of atman can occur. For example, puranas have it
that Gods and demons alike were born on the earth and took the shape of a human
being. Later, they went back to their original form. This also accounts for
many avatars. The avatara purushas lived like ordinary human beings. After
finishing their duties, they went back to their original status.
You also have legends where a celestial body is punished and made to be
born as an animal. You have the story of Ahalya, who was converted to stone.
Therefore the human soul can assume other bodies and remain as a stone,
animal, or a plant, a spirt or a God, depending upon which tatva is predominant
in it. Tatva means the innate nature. So depending on the karma pala, the human
body ends up in different incarnations.
What I have said so far may be a bit confusing. Because it is difficult
to understand the working of creation and death in terms of science which is
fixed to the human mind of the present day.
Therefore what is needed is not scientific proof but acceptance and
belief. In short, we can say that the appearance and disappearance of atmans
cannot be judged in statistical equations.
Question: We have always believed that evolution takes place in the
form of progressive steps. From minerals to plants, to animals to human beings.
How is that a human being can take an animal or some other form, after evolving
so much?
A: There are two kinds of evolution. There is organic evolution. The
other is spiritual evolution. In the first, the panchabutas or the elements
develop into various combinations resulting in matter. These are Prithvi, jala,
vaayu which in your modern language are called sold, liquid and gas.
These substances develop various kinds of energies such as attraction
and repulsion. Yet, they do not have life. The energy they contain is
collective energy. As they evolve into living organisms, they develop another
faculty called jiva or atma. Where does this ‘life’ come from?
Here, life is the expression of the atman. Thus each individual cell
has an atman of its own. In a complex animal like man, there are millions of
cells. If you separate each cell, it lives. Which shows that individual cells
have a unit of life.
Thus when a man dies, millions of minute units of life are withdrawn.
Collectively, a big unit of ‘life’ is withdrawn from the human body. Science
explains that living things have evolved from nonliving organic matters.
As you see, each material, each organism is a combination of several things. These are matter, energy, mind, consciousness, feelings, emotions, and the atman. The minerals have a form, which is sharira. They have energy. But they do not have the others. If you think atman is present in a mineral, it is in a state of ‘deep sleep.’
Pyramids for example have a sharira (with shape). A pyramid has no
mind, but surprisingly it has consciousness. Because of this, it is possible
for a person to appeal to their consciousness and get things to happen.
A plant has a form composed of matter and energy. It has feelings. But
it has no mind. Animals have bodies made of matter and energy, they have mind
and feelings, but lack consciousness. This faculty is present only in humans.
Therefore, organic evolution is a gradual increase in complexity with reference
to the body and mind.
We cannot expect a plant to meditate and reach the supreme, because it
has no consciousness of its own to understand the methods of understanding the
truth.
The next evolution is the spiritual evolution. There is no time limit
for this. Depending upon the accumulated negative or positive karmas of the
past, the evolution can be short or prolonged involving many thousands of
incarnations.
There are highly enlightened incarnations such as Prahalad. They need
not accept another janma. There are people who become enlightened because of
certain shocks. This is sudden as in the case of Buddha. Others have to
increase their good deeds, and gradually and simultaneously release from bad
karmas.
One can attain salvation through good karma or good gnana. This is what
you see in Bhagavad Gita. Bhagavan Krishna says, one can join the Parabrahman
by following different paths, which he names as karma yoga, bhakti yoga, jnana
yoga etc.
Question: Is it possible that an atman which rejoins the Parabrahman is
once again expelled to go through another cycle?
A: You have light coming from the sun. You have candlelight in your
house. Where does the candlelight go? You can think in this line. The mistake
you are making is once again applying statistics. There is no limitation with
reference to Parabrahman. ‘He’ is beyond the limits of space, time, speed,
volume, and weight.
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